Do wraparounds have a place in LG?

Discussion in 'Leaguegaming Hockey League (LGHL)' started by NKG HD, May 21, 2013.

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Should the wraparound rule be taken out?

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  1. NickyLeaks

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    As it stands right now, LG is a simulation league, while at the same time being a gentleman's league. To me, this means that anything done in real life can be done in the game, so long as it isn't overly cheesy.

    Current rules state that animation wraparounds are illegal. Before you vote, allow me to offer pros and cons to wraparounds in general:

    Pros:

    - It actually happens in real life

    - It forces d-men to protect the vulnerable sides of the net

    - It encourages goalies to hug their post, in an age where anti-hugging GLGs run rampant.

    - Adds a new scoring option to go alongside claps, walking in, and shots from the slot

    Cons:

    - The animation can be manipulated to be too quick

    - Disallowing wraps encourages GLG mindset

    - it is difficult for the d-man to stop the wrap if he is out of optimal position (l2position)
     
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    Pros:

    - It actually happens in real life
     
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    Wraps shouldn't be welcome in LG. I understand it happens in real life, and if the defense are top defenseman they will know how to stop it. It's just too glitchy, and it always has been. As a goalie, I have stopped wraps. I also have been frozen or glitched on random occasions. Unless EA can figure out a way to fix the overall problem, I don't want to see wraps.

    This goal line goalie crap is getting old as well. There is a big difference between a GLG and butterfly goalie, but the fact is so many people believe Butterfly is automatic goal line. Goal lining is banned anyways so that can't even be a pro. If you guys also notice, sometimes hugging posts and moving from side to side can be glitchy as well. It isn't 100 percent of the time, but it can change a game. If you want wrap around's go back to where you guys all came from.
     
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    sure its hard for the D to stop it if they aren't in an optimal position. its hard for goalies too.
    forwards can hop back and forth behind the net while a goalie scrambles and eventually do the quick animation, but whats the point in including that? not to mention if the wrap is done a certain way it can be jammed past a goalie hugging the post. not fun.
     
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    i wouldn't mind the rule being changed as long as people aren't trying it everytime they get the puck and aren't messing around behind the net and being cheasy about it
     
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    A GLG is someone who stays on his goalline, it's pretty simple. And telling new league talent to go back to where they came from is very counter-productive.
     
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    I wouldn't mind wrap arounds if there is a rule that players can't go back and fourth multiple times behind the net.
     
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    No wrap around has ever gone through a goalie.....
     
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    Con:
    - The bubble around the net that warps D doe NOT happen in real life :)
    - players will abuse D getting caught by going back and forth until one gets sucked out of position.

    Pros:
    - I prefer playing with no rules and just letting skill dictate everything....unfortunately leagues aren't designed that way and this is not club
     
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    Sort of like what happens in real life. lol
     
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    I'm a d-man and I'd like to see wraps allowed. I haven't really played much 6's recently other than league games, but I've seen the leg kick wrap a few times. I don't know if it makes the animation faster, but if it does I would obviously be against those, but I'm all for the normal wraps.

    I don't know when this rule was put in, but I would guess it's from back in the days when wraps and goalie animations were glitchy as hell. The animations have been improved greatly and good d-men/goalies will stop the play/make the save like 98% of the time.

    ''it is difficult for the d-man to stop the wrap if he is out of optimal position'' should not be a con. It's part of the defensemen's job to stop the wraps.
     
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    I voted yes. As a d-man it gets kinda boring knowing that the forward dosen't have that option
     
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  13. Ozzyng2

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    Not really but I dont have time to discuss things in detail and you're entitled to your opinion.
     
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    Not sure how much hockey you seen in real life then because defense get sucked out of position all the time. lol
     
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    I'm just saying, you come over here and want LG to be VHL. There is a reason some people don't play in VHL and play just here. There are reasons people play in smaller leagues, there are reasons people create their own leagues. All you have done in specific since you arrived here is cry about change, and rant like a goofball on your last radio show. The league is running fine ever since getting brought back to life. Last season wasn't bad and aside from lack of dedication from players, this season is just as fine. If VHL and LG wanted to be the same league they would merge, not be two different leagues. You guys are over thinking things and wanting to do it your own way. Obviously Ozzy is the guy in charge not you. You say you help the league with radio shows which cover nothing aside from problems you have with the league. That isn't a way to help bring productive change to the league. On topic though, wraps shouldn't be allowed just because the glitches it can cause. In real life you don't even see wraps go in a lot. They do create those good chances, but the fact is there will always be a difference between video games and real life. Video Games will never be 100 percent accurate.
     
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    Make a rule against going back and forth if you want, but I think a normal wrap should be allowed, it keeps the defense and goalie honest. Right now, I just sit in front of my goalie because I know the forwards only option for an immediate scoring chance when coming from behind the net is to force a pass to the front of the net.
     
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    I only watch hockey, I only play hockey. I've been watching hockey longer than you've been alive.

    I player wouldn't even try a wrap if there is a D on each post. Most of the times its a quick motion or if its a 1 on 1 (1 D guarding the front of the net) and the player tries a quick move back and forth to get the G and the D going the wrong way. That's NOT a bubble that warps you even if you are holding the opposite direction on the D-pad.
     
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    False, i've had a few gone THROUGH my pad. I've also had them go inside the side of the net. In a NHL game that wasn't as glitchy as this one, I would be all for it. But, EA sports wrote the game... so...

    maybe some day my goalie will stop doing teacup circles in the net behind the line when pressing RT.

    I find it amusing that so many people say VHL sucks.. it's garbage... blah blah blah.. then turn around and try, whether directly or indirectly, to make LG like VHL and any other league that it isn't and shouldn't be.
     
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    I'm aware there is a bubble around the net, but it has never prevented me from stopping a wrap attempt..
     
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    We've discussed this but if the rule isn't black and white (yes or no) it because a complaint fest for the league. So many arguments and how people look at what really happens in the game.

    As for a fwds only option, thats incorrect. What about the normal cycle? What about up the boards to the D who can then shoot or go D to D? There are a lot of options ans I see a lot of teams do it well this season.