A save in a 12-1 victory?

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  1. DPAnders

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    A save in a 12-1 vic

    I thought there were certain criteria for a save, but I guess this game didn't make it like that, and that's not very cool. I just saw a 12-1 win in AAA with a save, so that is kinda gay but it doesn't really matter.
     
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    Yeah a reliever has to come in with no more than a three run lead in order for it to count as a save. I'm guessing whoever entered the scores selected someone for a save that shouldn't have gotten it.
     
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    don't you get a save if you pitch the last 3 innings of a victory, no matter what?
     
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    I also saw someone who got a save once when he came on with a 4 run lead. Is this also possible? Just wondering.
     
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    Your right, as long as the reliever throws 3 innings to close out a game he automatically gets a save no matter what the score is. It doesn't matter if you up by 4 or 40 you get the save with 3 or more innings to close out the game.
     
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    Wow I never knew that.
     
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    also, the rule is this...

    the "3-run lead" thing depends on where the tying run is...

    the rule used to be:

    "if the tying run is at bat or on deck, then it will be a save situation"

    i think that was modified, though, to read that the tying run can be on (what the little kids call) double-deck.

    hence, the 3-run lead save.

    so if you're up 5 runs, and the bases are loaded, it is STILL A SAVE SITUATION!
     
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    the game didnt give him the save.. but the rules does state that he should be awarded a save...

    Weird.. did not know that one...

    I took that quote from here...
    http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp
     
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    Didn't know about the double deck rule but I did know the rule about the on deck guy being the possible tying run making it a save situation. Cause I pitched 2 innings with Chacon in my last game vs. the Pirates and I was up by 5 and never got a save for that one, couldn't figure out why?
     
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    Just played an offline game and was up 6-2 and brought in a relief pitcher in the top of the 7th. I had him pitch the rest of the way and he gave up one run in the 9th but the game didn't reward him with a save.
     
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    The programing I guess wont allow it...

    Goalie was not awarded one either... But he should have gotten that's why its nothing to worry about.. I really didnt know about the "last 3 innings rule"...

    I guess baseball needs to have "baseball rules" games on ESPN like hockey does..lol
     
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    Gange just got a save a few nights ago in FLA with a 5 run lead.

    The game doesn't do this, nor do they record error properly.
     
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    that's because that reliever gave up the run, he can't come in to give up a run and then get the save. even though he did pitch the rest of the way.

    kind of like in basketball, to get your triple double, you can't bounce it off the rim on purpose and then pick up the rebound... happened earlier this year where someone near the end of the game missed a shot on purpose just to get that extra rebound.

    so giving up that run is taken in hindsind and saying that maybe it was given up on purpose just to get the save.
     
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    That really doesn't make much sense to me. I know in one major league game this year gagne came in with a 3-0 lead in the ninth and gave up two runs but still was credited with the save.

    I always thought that if the pitcher doesn't give up the lead then they get the save.
     
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    Also that save came against the Giants if anyone else remembers that game.
     
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    What you just said makes no sence. He had a 3-0 lead and came in. He gave up 2 to make it 3-2. If the game is 3-2 for the final, he should get the save.....are you saying that he didn't get the save?
     
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    No he did get the save.
     
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    you missed the fact that he came in with a 3 - 0 lead... not a 6-2 lead.

    so in effect whatever he held off would be a save due to the 3 run rule.

    because the lead in the 6-2 game is 4 runs and the pitcher gave up the run made it 3 he doesn't get the save, as stated in my previous post.
     
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    lol, well he deserved the save....if you come in down by 3 or less and close out the game, you get a save as long as you don't let em tie it.
     
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    I know that he deserves it.
     
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