Constitutional Amendments : Current or Retroactive? (Player's Vote)

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Thoughts on Constitutional Amendments?

  1. They should be retroactive

    55.4%
  2. They should be moving forward from the time of the amendment

    42.0%
  3. Other

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    Except for the fact that the rule amendment vote is at 90% infavor

    So if it is determined not be retroactive it will be from the date moving forward. Therefore if the games are scheduled after that day forfeits can be taken
     
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    If it was any other team going through this issue in the AHL nobody would be voting retroactive, but since it is Crass who is going to be getting eliminated all of the AHL teams are going to be voting retroactive. In the best interest of the league, if there is a new rule that is added/amended it shouldn't affect stuff that has already happened in the past.
     
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    Oh, so its a date process not a round process?

    Now you run into the issue of all the other teams who abide by the original rules being neglected the opportunity Stockton is being granted, to include but not limited to the admirals, who are now being held to a different standard than their opponents were in the very same round of the tournament.

    If retroactive, the FF stands
    If not, either team will be eligible for a subsequent FF, but the original FF will remained overturned.

    If it's not going to be retroactive, then it has to be processed by rounds of playoffs, not date.
     
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    You can have both.

    Retroactivity from the date it is adopted and beyond.

    No court would ever say oh since this rule got adopted and says you can go back and change something within two weeks and then something that happened while this rule was NOT in place can now be affected by the new rule.
     
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    My exact sentiments.
     
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    Yeah; but, there are courts with similar situations in their law books.
    Legally you're allowed to beat your wife on Sundays on the magistrates steps in West Virginia with a stick no wider than your thumb; but, there is also a spousal abuse law that says you can't beat your wife. This spousal abuse law was an amendment to the first. If you beat your wife on Sunday with a stick thinner than your thumb in public on the steps of the magistrate, what do you think is going to happen?

    So if they follow the more recent add on to their law; even though it contradicts the original, why are we different?
     
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    This isn't court and yes it can be both

    The process for amendments can go one of two wants

    #1) the loop hole is identified, amended and the current issue that brought the loop hole to light is corrected and held to the standard being changed. Having a two week statue of limitations of two weeks anyone else whom may have used that loop hole will face the same result

    #2) the loop hole is identified and the team whom abused the loop hole gets to reap the benefits of abusing the system.

    Like I said the purpose of this is to discuss what the community feel is right. How do they want amendments handled by the Staff that oversees and governs the league.
     
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    It's a basic procedural question everyone has to ask themselves

    Put yourself in both teams situation and really evaluate how you feel you'd feel in each position.

    Consider the ruling and consider the outcome of an amendment being retroactive or not.

    Once all factors are considered and you vote it truly doesn't matter who is involved in a current situation.

    At the end of the day voting for what is best for the league is what matters
     
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    Apparently this isn't a court so we need to verbally joust with another analogy. I'll let you start.
     
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    I agree with that but obviously everybody on Stockton will vote for moving forward and everyone on Milwaukee will vote for retroactive. Aside from that, the majority of the AHL will likely be voting against Crass just because it's him and there is really no way of getting around that.. People's votes will be biased based on this situation.
     
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    It is most definitely not, most days it seems like a high school media project being ran by a liberal teacher who never got hired after she got her masters in political science.
     
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    Avoid the witch hunt, change a rule and move forward.
     
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    That's why we really have to look at the votes who voted and go from there. There are some stand up people here who won't let their opinions factor into this either way
     
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    Who's the deciding factor on who's vote is bias or not?
     
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